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Ryan Lab Group Meetings
Spring 2014 (2142)
First Week of Fifteen, Mon. 01-20-14
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Second Week of Fifteen, Mon. 01-27-14
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Third Week of Fifteen, Mon. 02-03-14
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Fourth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 02-10-14
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Fifth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 02-17-14
Wed., 02/19/14
Present: John Riter, and Derek Rickards. We are working on designing an
experiment that applies the KLI framework to the Interleaving and
Feedback experiment, with an eye to getting better retention. We noted
that spacing - via repeated testing (practicing retrieval) may be what
we need.
I emailed John the KLI paper and the Interleaving with Feedback paper.
He will begin by reading the Interleaving paper first, then the KLI
paper. Derek is already working on developing the materials for an
experiment to run in the Fall of 2014 (to improve retention). He will
try incorporating the spacing idea (perhaps expanding spacing).
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Sixth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 02-24-14
Wed., 02/26/14
Met with Erik Schwambach. On the training materials (blocked - with
feedback) he added prompts to self-explain on the initial example
(before the feedback).
One way to incorporate the S.E.'s would be to compare only two
conditions between subjects. One condition would be the interleaved,
with feedback condtion without the S.E., and the other would be the
same, but with the S.E. That would give us the most subjects per
condition, but would only test the addition of the S.E.'s. It would not
provide any replication of the previous results.
Or, we could have three conditions, the worst condition from the
previous study (blocked-no feedback), the other two would be the best
(interleaved - with feedback), without and with the S.E.'s.
To get a complete replication and extension we would need all 4
previous conditions and either add one more (the best plus SE) or cross
SE with the other two factors to give eight conditions. But that would
require a huge number of subjects unless we could figure out how to do
it within subjects. But doing all those conditions within subjects
could be very difficult.
I sent Erik the interleaving paper that is in progress just in case he has not already seen it.
The plan going forward is to consider how best to make use of either spacing, SEing, or both.
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Seventh Week of Fifteen, Mon. 03-03-14
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Eighth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 03-10-14
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Ninth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 03-17-14
Wed., 3/19/14
Conversation with Dr. Baranczyk: A good way to do a manipulation within
a class might be to use D2L. Randomly assign students to take different
versions of a "Quiz". I put quiz in quotation marks because it might be
possible to use the quiz as a way to manipulate some learning event, as
well as collect data. It would also have the advantage of taking work
off of the instructor, thus helping to get their buy in. Also, because
the students would see it as a quiz, and not just an experimental
activity, it would help with their task engagement.
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Tenth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 03-24-14
Wed., 3/26/14
My thoughts before the lab meeting:
For Fall 2014 - The idea would be to cross types of knowledge
components (KC's) with types of instructional events (IE's) so that the
four cells would comprise congruent and incongruent combinations of
IE's with KC's. One way to accomplish the IE (suggested by
Baranczyk) would be to use "quizzes" in D2L. We would need to identify
several pairs of KC's (with each member of the pair theoretically
amenable to a different kind of IE). Each pair could be from one module
in Stats. The modules and KC's would have to be ones that any Stat
instructor would teach. Then, divide each class randomly into Group A
and B. For each module one of the groups would receive a congruent
combination of KC and IE, and the other would receive an incongruent
combination. The assignment of congruent or incongruent to A or B would
be counterbalanced so that each group of students would receive the
same number of congruent and incongruent IE's, but on different
modules. One problem would be to equate the difficulty of the modules
and we should plan in advance to examine students separately based on
ability levels (Ryan, 2013).
References
Ryan, R. S. (2013, May). Practicing retrieval of facts in statistics benefits high ability but hurts low ability students. Poster presented at the 25th annual convention of the Association for Psychological Science, Washington, DC.
Erik and Derek's email of 3/9/14:
Hello Dr. Ryan, sorry for this delayed response. Me and Derek met up on
Wednesday, March 5th. We talked on how to bring my idea (S.E. problems
to help critical understanding) and Derek's (spacing tests to increase
retention).
We thought of 3 possible conditions.
1) Spaced testing w/ interleaving, feedback, and S.E.
-introduce spacing and S.E. to see how well
they score. See if the average becomes the new highest/most efficient
2) Interleaved w/ feedback and S.E. but not spaced like #1
- using the study's most successful condition
(interleaved with feedback) but introducing S.E. to see if it increases
the scores.
3) Blocked, no feedback, but w/ S.E., not spaced like #1
-using the study's worst condition (blocked with no
feedback) but introducing S.E. to see if it increasing the scores.
Results of meeting with Derek 4 - 5:22pm, Wed., 3/26/14
We have already shown that we can improve students' learning of the associations
between descriptions with different designs (between - within - 2 grp -
3 or more grp) and the appropriate tests by using feature focusing and
feedback to get them to induce
the designs, and interleaving to make the associations. But we're still
not getting retention. Maybe we need to focus on how to get
retention. And maybe we should not worry about getting them to retain
their ability to induce the designs from the descriptions. Instead,
first we should focus on getting them to retain just the associations
between the designs and the appropriate tests. So if we add spacing and
retrieval practice we should be able to get that retention. (Although
there may be a danger that if we give them the designs, rather than
forcing them to induce them, then that might interfere with our ability
to get retention - but let's hope that's not a problem).
Also, we should not worry about involving S.E.'s at this point. They
may be helpful for higher level learning, but we aren't there yet. Or,
they may be helpful for retention of the induction process, if, later,
we try to get better retention of that.
Also, we should not worry about crossing types of KC's with types of
IE's to get congruent and incongruent conditions. That might be useful
for a more theoretical experiment that was designed to support the
claims of the KLI paper. But it would not be of as much interest to
teachers who simply want to improve learning.
So, t tests could be one module. Anova could be another module. Maybe
we could add correlation or chi square or both. One group of students
would get the module with spacing and retrieval practice, and the other
group would serve as a control that would not get the spacing and
retrieval practice. Then for another module, the groups could switch.
The task, at this point, would not be to induce designs from
descriptions and then make the correct associations. Right now, the
task would just be to learn the associations, and then, more
importantly, to retain them.
Now we have to figure out how to implement the conditions using D2L.
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Eleventh Week of Fifteen, Mon. 03-31-14
Wed., 04/02/14
John Ritter stopped in. We discussed the fact that the group
working on this project is working a good bit just on their own and
only stopping in to update me or get further instructions as needed.
As John figured from reading me previous email in which I sent out the
notes from the 3/26/14 meeting with Derek, we now need to be working on
how to implement the study described there on D2L. They do not have to
worry about the nuts and bolts of how to get it on D2L. Rather, they
can work on two things. First, what exact materials could we use.
Second, how would we present them so that one group would get retrieval
practice and spacing, whereas the other group would get exactly the
same thing, but without retrieval practice and spacing. And yet, both
groups have to get exactly the same thing other than that manipulation,
and both groups have to see the activities as graded quizzes in order
to get good task involvement.
I thought about whether their task should be only to make an
association between a set of features and the name of a procedure. If
so, we might be able to get better retention of just such facts. But
they could possibly learn and retain just bare bones facts such as "If
there are two groups, not three or more, then use a t test, not an
anova" without much understanding of what that means. On the other
hand, they might actually be able to acquire greater understanding, but
we would not know if we do not give them the opportunity to do so, and
then test for it.
So, here's what we could do. The materials could be descriptions of
research situations, but always presented along with an explicit
statement of what the features were, and what procedure goes with those
features. Then, when we test them, we could first test for just the
association between the features and the appropriate procedure. Then we
could also give them test items in which we present just the
description (without the explicit statement about the features) and ask
what would be the appropriate procedure. That way, if they DID have the
ability to induce the features (and maybe even retain the ability to do
that), then we would have given them the opportunity to do it, and to
show us that they did it.
I pointed out to John that maybe they could find appropriate materials
from among the stuff they already have from the interleaving
experiments. Also, the feedback manipulation that we used might be able
to be adapted into a practicing retrieval procedure. That might be able
to be done by making the feedback into delayed feedback, rather than
the immediate feedback that we used.
It probably will not matter whether the experiment spreads into the
time that they receive the formal instruction on the task materials, as
long as it was the same for both conditions, because the formal
instruction, unfortunately, did not have any impact according to the
results of the interleaving studies.
The challenge, however, will be to design a procedure to implement the
manipulation while keeping all other things the same for both groups,
and making sure it looks like actual graded assignments to the students
(there's no reason they couldn't actually be actual graded assignments).
Then implementing it as quizzes on D2L may not be too hard (Ha, ha, famous last words).
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Twelfth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 04-07-14
Wed., 04/09/14
Met with Derek Rickards. We figured out that in order to manipulate
retrieval practice, we need to take the interleaving with feedback
materials, and adapt them. We need to have not just a session of
training with immediate feedback, but rather, a training session first,
then a session of practicing retrieval with delayed feedback.
Fri., 04/11/14
While creating example materials for the crew to use to make the sets
of materials I realized something. My training examples are worked
examples and my study examples are problems to solve. There is research
showing that learning from worked examples is improved if the worked
examples include both correct and incorrect examples. That is, one
group compares two worked examples, both of which are correct, whereas
another group compares two worked examples, one of which is correct and
the other is incorrect. We need to keep this idea in mind for perhaps
future studies.
Also, a rep from Cengage came by to say she is going to be doing a demo
of their web enrichment site. I asked about using the site to implement
an experiment and she seemed interested.
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Thirteenth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 04-14-14
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Fourteenth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 04-21-14
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Spring 2014 (2142)
Fifteenth Week of Fifteen, Mon. 04-28-14
Wed., 04/30/14
Met with Derek briefly. He emailed me the materials. I'll check
them when I can and get back to him. He will be available during the
summer.
Spring 2014 (2142)
After the semester ended
Wed., 08/27/14
Over the summer I developed the experiment for the Stats classes in
which we manipulate practicing retrieval and amount of spacing between
two practice sessions. I developed the materials to be presented on D2L
as quizzes. All the Stats instructors agreed to use the quizzes as
items that count towards the students' grades (how much will be up to
the instructors). The students will be asked for their informed consent
to use their performance on the quizzes as data for our study. The IRB
ap was approved over the summer. The grad assistants will visit all the
stats classes to obtain the informed consents.
I met with Derek Rickards today.
Derek Rickards and John Riter timed the EBL activities enough to give
me an idea of how much time to tell the students the activities will
take. They will continue to time them at the beginning of the semester.
Also over the summer I received word that my sabbatical request was
denied. The application basically asked for a one year sabbatical to do
a cognitive task analysis of the content of our Statistics courses in
order to develop a series of experiments based on the KLI framework
that could be run in the Stats classes. The committee denied the
application because they felt that I was asking for time to develop a
project rather than developing the project first and asking for time to
run it. In discussions with the chair of the committee we determined
that if I already have developed an experiment, and especially if it is
the kind in which I need to run hundreds of subjects, they need to be
run individually, and it takes, say, a couple hours to run each one,
then the committee would think that it would be appropriate to take a
sabbatical to run the experiment.
So, I will ask Derek and John to work with me on doing the cognitive
task analysis over these next two semesters with a goal of developing
an experiment in which we manipulate self-explanation. According to the
KLI framework it will probably be S.E. ing that would be the likely
candidate for a type of instructional event to apply to the higher
order concepts and principles in Statistics. But in order to conduct an
experiment we will have to identify specific concepts, operationalize
them, and develop all of the specifics for a method for training and
prompting S. E.'s specific to those concepts. Such an experiment would
be appropriate to test the ecological validity of using S. E.ing on
statistics concepts, and would be the kind of labor intensive
experiment that the sabbatical committee might be more likely to
approve.
Derek and John can work on that and check in with me as needed for guidance and feedback from me.